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kinajin
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Reply #25 - 07/27/10 at 18:16:37
 
People should visit a reservation in South Dakota.  Some of you will appreciate your homes now. Wink Smiley Grin
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Reply #26 - 07/27/10 at 19:07:58
 
you mean they don't live in tipis? just kidding, I have seen pictures and recent movies about SD.... Sad the american government can be proud of the title richest land of the world" Angry
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Reply #27 - 07/28/10 at 09:05:45
 
How come the white people don't have a cultural awakening too and live in sod houses?  Or is the native awakening just a self-esteem thing?  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #28 - 07/28/10 at 15:25:59
 
Quote from kinajin on 07/28/10 at 09:05:45:
How come the white people don't have a cultural awakening too and live in sod houses?  Or is the native awakening just a self-esteem thing?  Grin Grin Grin Grin

 
Actually Kin', where white culture and housing is concerned, there is an on-going sort of "awakening" happening. Just read about a guy in Colorado who's "retirement home" is a Yurt (mongolian-style round tent, http://www.motherearthnews.com/modern-homesteading/want-a-cozy-home-build-a-yurt .aspx"). Other folks are embracing the "Tiny Home" concept (http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/). People both here in Southern California and up north in NorCal, Oregon, and Washington are going for earthen homes (Cob construction, Rammed Earth), Straw Bale homes, Timberframe and Log Cabin homes. Although one of the best houses I saw was "The Hobbit House" in Wales. It was built entirely of local materials scavenged from the building site or rescued from the dump. The guy and his family built it all themselves for less than £3000 (http://www.simondale.net/house/index.htm). And if ya' REALLY wanna see a "cultural awakening", there's a group of folks over in Lead Hill, AK who are building a Medieval Castle using only traditional tools and building techniques, only using stone and other materials from the building site just as it would've been done in the 11th century. (http://www.ozarkmedievalfortress.com/en-us/)
 
Mostly, I think folks are just tired of high-priced housing, or because of building codes and local laws, being forced to live in homes larger than they feel they need. Then there's a community of folks in Twin Mesas, NM who are living rent-free on BLM land that I saw a documentary on called "Off The Grid: Life On The Mesa" (http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/off_the_grid_life_on_the_mesa/) But all of them are out there because they can't afford to live anywhere else.
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Reply #29 - 07/28/10 at 17:59:48
 
Pila. I learn something everyday.  Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #30 - 07/28/10 at 18:24:40
 
more and more europeans are living in a RV or trailer, some because they want others because they no longer can afford to pay for the house
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Reply #31 - 07/28/10 at 23:21:12
 
Quote from rono on 07/28/10 at 18:24:40:
more and more europeans are living in a RV or trailer, some because they want others because they no longer can afford to pay for the house

 
Misty's always wanted a Gypsy Wagon (a Vardo), and I have to admit, even if we just park it at her mom's place, it's lookin' mighty tempting. I've been kinda drooling on this little wheeled cottage: http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses/tarleton/ since I saw it. Dunno if I'd do the aluminum siding like they've got pictured, but I could deal with a little shack like that just fine  Grin
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Reply #32 - 07/30/10 at 17:07:16
 
I live in a 11 x 9ft space. how much room do we need  Wink
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Reply #33 - 07/31/10 at 00:25:48
 
The elderly people have escaped the white hour by hour time clock. The whole work ethic thing. They buy trailer or motor homes and they are off to see the world.
 
For the rest of us living off the res, we follow that clock. It's all a numbers thing. I have to be here at this time, I have to be someplace else at this time, watch that clock. Everything has to have a time and date stamp with the White / Euro cultures.
When we get old enough to shed that heavy coat, we can start to get back to what we were meant to do.
 
I hear elders talk of this concept alot, How we worry too much about the clock, how we all have to have a watch and know exactly what time it is. It eats us, it consumes us.
 
Get a trailer, go on a road trip, see how the rest of the world lives, and do it at your pace. Thats how the old ones do it. It makes sense.
 
Seem the young people, those to young to have been burdened by society's values, and the old ones, those who no longer care about the clock. Enjoy life.
 
I have heard the elders say this is because both the young and the old ones are closer to Wakantanka
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Reply #34 - 08/01/10 at 00:33:46
 
Quote from Alextakoda on 07/30/10 at 17:07:16:
I live in a 11 x 9ft space. how much room do we need  Wink

 
To quote George Carlin: "That's all your house is is a place to store your stuff. If you didn't have so much stuff, you wouldn't need a house. You could just walk around all the time. That's all your house is, it's a pile of stuff with a cover on it. And when you leave your stuff, you gotta lock it up. Wouldn't want anyone to come by and take your stuff...... sometimes you gotta move and get a bigger house. Why? To much stuff!"
 
Recently we've been getting rid of a lot of old stuff just to make more room in the house. Stuff we never use any more, stuff that doesn't fit, stuff we forgot we had and can't remember why we got in the first place. Less stuff = need less room = less to clean and less to worry about = more free time to enjoy ourselves.
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Reply #35 - 08/01/10 at 12:59:28
 
Wink Grin Grin
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Reply #36 - 08/02/10 at 18:14:54
 
Possessions are White / Euro society's acceptable clarification for status of success.
 
Ndn people are judges by other Ndn people by their acts, Bravery, Charity, humility, honesty among them. Not dollars or possessions.
 
Is this still true on the Reservations today Kinajin..............I believe it is so with our Elders.
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Reply #37 - 08/02/10 at 19:52:00
 
Have to grow up on the rez to see it. Smiley
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Reply #38 - 08/02/10 at 20:14:32
 
Sometimes a visit with our Elders and relatives can open our eye's, ear's and hearts to the differences between reservation and off reservation life.
To the truths and the perceptions of those that would otherwise avoid such talk.
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Reply #39 - 08/03/10 at 16:44:14
 
There are no truths, just signs for growth.  Wink Smiley Smiley
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Reply #40 - 08/03/10 at 17:06:01
 
growth come with pain and the realization of what is perceived as truth.
 
I travel to the Dakotas, to the Hills and the Bad lands. I visit with relatives. This time my eyes looked differently upon what I saw and what I listened too. I was surprised at the number of people who looked much like me. People who have never lived off the reservation. Kids who know nothing other than reservation life. I watched how Lakota and non Lakota people interacted with these kids. Kids with blond hair and blue eyes standing next to their brothers or sisters who had Dark hair and Brown eyes.
I watched how these kids were teased by other reservation kids, accepted by family and those close to them, but different by those that do not know them.
The same was for the whites who had contact with them. They did not look at the blond kids like Lakota, they saw them by their outward appearance as white. But these kids could speak Lakota as well as their siblings.
 
Yes there is growth, but there is a perceived truth spoken by those that hold certain beliefs. To them the truth is in their belief systems. Perceived by what they have been taught.  
 
How are we teaching others in our words here?
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Reply #41 - 08/03/10 at 20:27:00
 
There are places where there is no Lakota or wasicu, just oyate. Smiley
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Reply #42 - 08/03/10 at 20:40:18
 
Grandma always use to tell me "We're all just folks here."
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Reply #43 - 08/03/10 at 20:47:13
 
Thats all it is. even the wasicu know who iktomi is in their communities. Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #44 - 08/04/10 at 01:31:58
 
agree  Smiley
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Reply #45 - 08/05/10 at 14:21:09
 
There are more examples of good relations here in SD, but they don't get the headlines. Wink Smiley
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Reply #46 - 08/06/10 at 02:09:04
 
Some of us are just family, it doesn't matter where we are from. Its all good.
 
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Reply #47 - 08/06/10 at 08:45:54
 
j thats what it is, Pila. Wink Smiley
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Reply #48 - 08/06/10 at 16:23:50
 
I would like to know, if I'm family.  
Maybe I don't wanna be family - Raoul Julia said some pretty profound stuff about family and friends to Mad Max.
I think, I prefer friends, actually. You can choose friends, you see...
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Reply #49 - 08/08/10 at 12:33:28
 
Quote from Salander on 08/06/10 at 16:23:50:
I would like to know, if I'm family.
Maybe I don't wanna be family - Raoul Julia said some pretty profound stuff about family and friends to Mad Max.
I think, I prefer friends, actually. You can choose friends, you see...

 
One of the guys I work with is fond of saying "No one can push your buttons like Family....because they're the ones who installed them in the first place." So there is one good reason for needing family: They can help you be more aware of yourself.  I never got along with my older brother and sister very much. They both tended to take after our father and were always into NASCAR and Football and other things I had no interest in. When my little sister was born, I finally had a sibling I got along with, and us two younger children tended to take after our mother with an interest in handicrafts at a young age. But, the older I got, the more I started to see how much I shared in common with all my family and I could see in them different aspects of myself. Of course they still annoyed me from time to time, because we had our differences. That's even taught me alot about myself as an individual, even if it wasn't a very happy way of learning things.  
 
These days, I pay close attention to my family. I still don't get along with some of them, but they always teach me something every time I see them..... sometimes I think I learn more form their mistakes in life than they seem to  Huh
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